tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post8345323010519680561..comments2024-03-10T17:17:00.115-04:00Comments on Dekalb Officers Speak: "If They Want To Get Paid More, Then They Have To Carry More Of The Burden...There's No Way Around It"...Jeff Rader, DeKalb County Commissioner, District 2.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-92005834016462974352010-11-24T10:57:12.371-05:002010-11-24T10:57:12.371-05:00Well I respect someone having friends over due to ...Well I respect someone having friends over due to a death in the family. I guess everyone needs to call and let the Chief know that their street will ignore the laws for the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-31252237597910853452010-11-23T23:50:30.998-05:002010-11-23T23:50:30.998-05:00Good idea. Hey blogmaster, give us the boundaries ...Good idea. Hey blogmaster, give us the boundaries for Rader's district and we'll show him "more production" like he's never seen before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-15600437982114768722010-11-23T23:25:03.196-05:002010-11-23T23:25:03.196-05:00Our Major comes in roll call, lines officers up fa...Our Major comes in roll call, lines officers up facing the wall for inspection, insults us, then leaves the room. I guess this is how they build morale at Dekalb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-61865157313127553682010-11-23T22:16:29.085-05:002010-11-23T22:16:29.085-05:00Oh, now Rader wants us to be sensitive to or for h...Oh, now Rader wants us to be sensitive to or for him. F off!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-50470053208603775412010-11-23T22:08:54.581-05:002010-11-23T22:08:54.581-05:00If Rader wants more productivity, we should give i...If Rader wants more productivity, we should give it to his neighborhood. Every violation you see, long copy. Get your pennies out to check tire tread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-14335860691713849042010-11-23T19:46:28.622-05:002010-11-23T19:46:28.622-05:00Funny how Rader wants more production while at the...Funny how Rader wants more production while at the same time my watch commander came to roll call and told us not to enforce traffic violations on Oakdale Rd. per Raders request because somebody was having visitors over after a funeral. <br /><br />Hell Rader, that would have been a perfect time to increase production, kick your constituents while their down just like you do usAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-86054579740571842182010-11-23T19:31:38.731-05:002010-11-23T19:31:38.731-05:00We need to organize a Blue Flu they can not write ...We need to organize a Blue Flu they can not write you up for calling in sick for one day. It will shut down County Gov and maybe make them realize how much they need us. I am calling on the blog master to come up with a date and let the word get around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-29887270173800244452010-11-23T18:39:39.150-05:002010-11-23T18:39:39.150-05:00I implore all county employees, especially the pol...I implore all county employees, especially the police officers, choosing to leave DeKalb County to publicly present your resignations to the Board of Commissioners at one of their meetings and read aloud your resignation letter. Each person gets three minutes during open comments. Open comments is allotted thirty minutes. Show the BOC how many of you are leaving and tell them why. They need to hear it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-28957245882900685442010-11-23T18:07:41.672-05:002010-11-23T18:07:41.672-05:00Absolutely stunning and arrogant. Dekalb County&#...Absolutely stunning and arrogant. Dekalb County's elected officials are the bottom of the barrel. Inept and incompetent self-interested losers. Come to your senses voters, get these clowns out of office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-38013497262714881352010-11-23T16:47:33.596-05:002010-11-23T16:47:33.596-05:00Amen to that! Let's end the silly spending. ...Amen to that! Let's end the silly spending. We had a good run, tax dollars were pouring in but that time is over. DeKalb County must take personal responsibility just like every small business does by living within their means.<br /><br />Matt<br /><a href="http://www.selfstoragedeals.com/dekalb_il" title="Self Storage Dekalb"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-5751457024108026242010-11-23T10:25:27.333-05:002010-11-23T10:25:27.333-05:00The last poster has really hit the nail on the hea...The last poster has really hit the nail on the head - What has failed us is our leadership. The morale is failing because of leadership, etc. It is not the hard times that make people feel down, but the lack of leadership and the two class system this county has: the few and the favored of the CEO & BOC vs. the rest of us.<br /><br />The county is full of people put in place by the CEO that are hidden within other departments' budgets (watershed, parks, transportation, etc.). Mostly these people do nothing but get a big paycheck and take up space. They have no idea how to perform the job classification they are in because they have zero experience and mostly they do not even care to learn. They also take up budget money that could be used to pay existing employees that actually perform work. I work with three such people in my office area. All are recent hires, make 30-40% more than me and have the same job classification as me and do nothing but take personal phone calls all day. How does the CEO think that impacts morale in my office? Any guesses Stogner?<br /><br />The so called leaders are selfish and short sighted. They are ignorant fools that think we will always suck it up, but I am out of here in two months. I simply will not be insulted anymore.<br /><br />It is really sad to see things go this way, but it seems to be the truth and they really do not care. Very sad, just very sad to see this place go down like this. I tried to help and make suggestions and do the right thing, but I am exhausted fighting with these idiots. <br /><br />I work, unfortunately, close enough to the CEO and the BOC to see that it will only get much worse before it gets better. My advice, if it is at all possible for you, is to move on and not look back. Do not try to help fix things, they don't want it. Trust me on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-77743553936609619452010-11-22T23:51:19.555-05:002010-11-22T23:51:19.555-05:00Carry more of the burden? Are we not carrying enou...Carry more of the burden? Are we not carrying enough of the burden already through increased call volume having to be handled by fewer officers due to furloughs?<br />We are shouldering a huge burden already...much heavier than anyother department. Where exactly in this increased workload are we supposed to find time to go out and write more citations?<br />And another thing, why is it that whenever there are financial problems in this county, the BOC and CEO seem to jump on PD for not writing enough tickets as though we're supposed to be the sole source of revenue...why is that...is it because they've historically been able to threaten us and twist our arms over writing tickets?<br />Well that dynamic has been altered to a point where that will never occur again. Stand up against these thugs any way you can.<br />It's not us failing to carry our load, it's the political elites failing to use the county's money responsibly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-42061087931848013372010-11-22T22:23:48.774-05:002010-11-22T22:23:48.774-05:00Pension tabled to reduce from 2.75% /yr to 1.25% a...Pension tabled to reduce from 2.75% /yr to 1.25% and all transfers out of uniform suspended until at least Jan 1 due to max exodus of officers to other agencies. ...NICEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-17281258064739182732010-11-22T17:54:50.624-05:002010-11-22T17:54:50.624-05:00The BOC doesn't care about experience. All th...The BOC doesn't care about experience. All they see is an officer that costs them more than a newly trained academy graduate that doesn't know squat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-17181858424654715292010-11-22T17:24:15.100-05:002010-11-22T17:24:15.100-05:00To anonymous 7:14 PM: you say all people have to ...To anonymous 7:14 PM: you say all people have to do instead of calling into 911 a loud music call is to go to that neighbor and tell/ask him or her to turn the music down: how would YOU like to go to a known drug house directly across the street from your paid-for home and ask them to do anything????You got to be kidding! We can't even get any one interested in this (the girl there has been arrested 42 times and plead guilty all 42 times in DeKalb Co. alone) from the police dept..and you think we good honest citizens should approach someone in this house??? that could be a good thing..then you'd probably have a "50" or"51" which certainly would get us some attention to this on-going problem and hey, we don't live in any of the war zones in DeKalb of DeKalb..we are directly behind 34....any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. And FYI, all of my friends and neighbors support officers 100% and I, for one, have talked with Ellis, written letters, and done everything within the law imaginable to try and get him to listen to you people and the public as well. Stay safe..we really need all of you officers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-85263650572439490222010-11-22T16:28:06.788-05:002010-11-22T16:28:06.788-05:00Hey Rader, why should we bust our ass and write mo...Hey Rader, why should we bust our ass and write more tickets so you and the BOC can keep on spending like there's no tomorrow???? Reduce the size of government and stop wasteful spending. It doesn't make sense for me to bring in revenue and still get furloughed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-38551983558561900512010-11-22T13:08:21.515-05:002010-11-22T13:08:21.515-05:00Are we supposed to "carry more of the burden&...Are we supposed to "carry more of the burden" for all County employees?? What are the other employees doing to "carry more of the burden?" What measure is used to determine their share? So I guess this "carry more of the burden" threat means if we do we will be the only County employees to recieve a pay raise. As if that would happen. Apparently, we have been the work horse for all County employees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-19581941673162893902010-11-22T10:47:23.101-05:002010-11-22T10:47:23.101-05:00The BOC shouud be made to see the value of already...The BOC shouud be made to see the value of already trained experienced ( and content ) police officers instead of having to always recruit and train new officers or deal with the resulting bad attitudes that our BOC generates. But really, those in government who were not real police officers will never understand will they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-64075408567454058182010-11-22T10:26:47.953-05:002010-11-22T10:26:47.953-05:00Take home cars-
* They last longer because an as...Take home cars-<br /> * They last longer because an assigned car is better cared for.<br /> * Officer are more productive by virtue of being available for a longer period of time..ie they're not waiting for cars, they're not loading/unloading cars...etc<br /> * There is a greater police presence ...officers are visible while in transit to or from work.<br /> * Off duty officers are more visible because you can't miss a police car parked out front.<br /> * Off duty officers are able to transport their own prisoners.<br /><br />Rader...you want more productivity? Here's a way to boost productivity and cut the costs associated with training new officers to replace the trained, experienced officers who are leaving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-60775485917234360352010-11-21T20:18:06.154-05:002010-11-21T20:18:06.154-05:00Give me a take home car and not be on call. This w...Give me a take home car and not be on call. This would save me the money that I have suffer due to no raises and furlough days. <br /><br />Why are just a certain few rewarded with a take home car? Free car and gas what a perk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-64104441839342068542010-11-21T18:57:49.221-05:002010-11-21T18:57:49.221-05:00The audacity of you Mr. Rader. For so many years ...The audacity of you Mr. Rader. For so many years now, we have been underpaid for the work we do and now you say, "If they want to get paid more, then they have to carry more of the burden...There's no way around it."<br /><br />I've got news for you, sir, we have been carrying more and more of the burden year after year and all we have received in return is less and less. There is no need to restate all that has already been said. It's well known by now and no secret. Personally, I have been "always loyal" to DeKalb County busting my ass and risking my life doing more and more for the citizens of DeKalb County and the Board of Commissioners for well over ten years now. Yet, the longer I remain "always loyal" the more poor I get. The problem here is that you along with the other Board of Commmissioners and the CEOs have instituted a new standard that you all feel is acceptable. Well that, SIR, your new standards are sub-standard and unacceptable.<br /><br />Shame on you for making such an arrogant statement you elitest-minded jerk!<br /><br />"AL" (Always Loyal, though you might know me in the future as "OWL"...Once Was Loyal)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-53767108040246400982010-11-21T15:05:19.940-05:002010-11-21T15:05:19.940-05:00Take time to get all the facts,
Commissioner Boye...Take time to get all the facts,<br /> Commissioner Boyer has been asking for and pushing for cahnging the form of Gvernemtn for several years.<br /> That is what she meant by reorganize and everything is on the table.<br />Sometimes illogical and uniformed rants feel good but do little to influence anybody.<br />Instead of coming to the BOC meeting when the Budget is presented,(thought that is agood isea too) stage a demonstration or a series of demonstrations over at the 330 Building. That is where the budget is created.<br />This is where the decisions are made of who to fund and who to cut.<br />What departments are suffering and which departments are a things we cannot afford to to anymore.<br />Talk about the IT department, talk about the tax assesor's office who has software that is not compatable with other systems in the county.<br />This is more than job cuts, it is about restructuring priorities.<br />Having commissoners do what is good for the entire County and not just their district.<br />I did not care for Vernon all that much, but one thing he said, ( may not have meant it) "One DeKalb."<br />Give me a County Manger anytime. One that is a businessman first and formost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-46829973984170257502010-11-21T13:21:51.467-05:002010-11-21T13:21:51.467-05:00What ELSE could they take from us? It's as th...What ELSE could they take from us? It's as though we all have parttime jobs working there as it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-42595649543850436402010-11-21T11:50:51.277-05:002010-11-21T11:50:51.277-05:00Are you seriously complaining about libraries? I u...Are you seriously complaining about libraries? I usually find your rants interesting, but that seems a bit low, and, to say the least, ill informed. Library funding has been cut to a fraction (literally) of what it was just a year ago. Library employees are experiencing the same furloughs, unpaid holidays, and increases in insurance, etc. that everyone else is. If you are referring to the money being spent on bond projects (buildings), then you should complain to the citizens who voted on the bond that funds those projects, which happened, what, five years ago?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5067361049814621194.post-80749050101709684182010-11-21T11:18:48.388-05:002010-11-21T11:18:48.388-05:00For me this goes back to 1992 when the County had ...For me this goes back to 1992 when the County had an $18 million deficit and Lianne Levetan said, "We need to tighten our belts." One of the answers then was to stop/ slow down the hiring of officers. We never caught up from that. We now have about 1000 officers (and that number is shrinking almost daily) policing 700,000-750,000 people. "They have to carry more of the burden."???? Compared to most other agencies, we have been doing that for nearly 20 years. The average officer in Dekalb works at least twice as hard as what studies have shown he/she should be working. At one time the policing model suggested by the FBI stated that an officer should answer 4.5 calls per shift so that there was enough time for him to patrol his territory to PREVENT crime. Preventing crime is not just, or even neccesarily, writing tickets. <br /><br />Then there are many situations in which we have degraded and, sometimes, dangerous equipment, ie: A CAD system that was designed and bought locally that was not intended to be used in a department this size or that handles the volume of calls we handle,cars with over 150,000 miles on them. Some of those cars will be approaching 200,000 miles shortly. There are many other equipment issues but those are not so much dangerous as lacking in efficiency such as the computers for the officers. I keep being told to check my email but I have no access to my email because the computers won't open it any quicker than 2-3 hours. haha<br /><br />Then there was the debacle of the pay raises about 10 years ago. We had to fight like hell to get a raise that the BOC's own study showed we were due. And the way the raise was implimented still has the pay structure screwed up. Because of this pay raise the smart ones did not get promoted so they could make much, much more money.<br /><br />I am so furious and fed up with the County (the CEOs and BOCs)pushing their lack of management and operating skills onto the employees that I can't even think of the other issues and situations that have brought us to this point. The point I am wanting to make is that this department has been being dragged down for many years and I, for one, am tired of being told to give more of an effort for less equipment, pay, benifits, etc. when all we keep getting in return are worse working conditions and more threats. Now they are threatening lay-offs. ("We need to reorganize. We need to talk lay-offs. Everything has to be on the table this year,” Commissioner Elaine Boyer) With the exception of our last pay raise, verytime we have been in this position before we have given in to the County. We need to be resolute in demanding to be treated fairly. I am not a lover of a Union but this maybe an answer to our situation that needs to be revisited but whether we have a union or just resolve ourselves to an action, we need to hold firm and be of one mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com