Rumors of more furlough days ranging from 12 to 17.Our police department cannot afford 2 more years of the current incompetent commissioners. The taxpayers cannot afford 2 more years of these commissioners. This county is doomed for bankruptcy.
No merit increases.
No cost of living raises.
Less choices for health insurance.
Health insurance for employees increasing as much as 21%.
Health insurance for retirees over the age of 65 increasing 40%.
The commissioners borrowed 43 million dollars from our pension, and now are poised to end contributions to our pension fund in 2011.
Employee contribution to our pension fund to be increased by an undetermined amount.
The Commissioners borrowed 39 million dollars from the federal government, pushing the county over 1 billion dollars in bond debt.
Wiz Miller remains Public Safety Director.
Sadly, no one with any fiscal knowledge or responsibility appears to be making a move to run for commissioner.
33 comments:
We have no future in sight. The current administration is clueless to the current problems.
The problem is morale and pay.We have to furlough days and no merit increase. The the BOC pay ones who they fire and then bring back from retirement. Where does the money come from?
Time to go........This deprtment sucks so bad it hurts......
How bout getting the FOP to rent billboards along the interstates in Dekalb to shows residents exactly how the BOC is treating the employees who serve them. This will help them realize why they get slow response times and emergency personnel arriving with a less than sympathetic attitude.
This is really getting sad......Its time for a change, but we all have to stand together as one big unit before we can request what we want...
One question for you guys,,,Its has been brought to the officer at East Precinct that the Good Ole Major is making the Officer write a minimum of three long copy tickets a day and warning will no longer count towards this. If you don't make your three tickets you will have to visit the LT and explain why you were not productive on the day even if you do have two J1 and two reports and you PO sheet has like 15 entries on it. They dont care but you better have those three tickets. Now clear that we don't have quota for tickets but this sounds like they are putting a quota on us. They call it being productive. whats yall take on this crap
I dont know why anyone would issue a ciation right now, this is garbage. Dont risk your life for these ungrateful BOC members. Park your car and just answer your calls. Lord knows if you get hurt they could care less.
But you left out that we are getting new uniforms. Oh and you also can get a free meal at the county pick nick. Wow now it doesn't look so bad does it. Seriously this is sad and show exactly what happens when incompetence catches up with you. The shining light of the Southeast has now become a burned out bulb that no one will change. Maybe bankruptcy will wake this idiots up!
Look, I have no faith in the system. The reality is nothing will change. I mean take a look at our BOC. Now take a look at who votes them in. These are the same people that worship The PIMP Bishop Eddie Long.
Nothing will ever change. DeKalb is ran by foundation of race instead competence.
Wow!!!, If your going to open enrollment today make sure you bring a jar of vasoline especially if you plan on going with CIGNA. On top of furlough days this is rediculous. My paycheck will probably be cut in half. Good luck and dont forget the vasoline.
OK you morons - all this bitching but no action. They gave us Furlough days instead of unpaid holidays - and everybody acted like you got a Christmas present. Open your eyes folks - they will continue to stick it to us until we get their attention. Stop writing long copies - stop contributing to THEIR pockets cause it sure isn't going in ours. As for East - if they try to write an officer up for lack of productivity, but he/she is answering calls and still writing a couple of tickets, then it's a QUOTA! How about it Channel 2 or Channel 10 - want to do your job and start reporting some of this abuse?
I agre with Anon11:12...stop the bitching and start fighting. What is Maj. Li'l Man gonna do? If you are doing the job, he an't do anything. Are you gonna be the officer that "goes along to get along"? If so, you are a chump! Stand with your peers...we are in this for the long haul.
We do have a quota at East Precinct. You are required to write a tickets or face disciplinary action. So when you stop someone and they ask you does this make your quota today.The correct answer is YES.
Gwinnett County Hiring Certified Officers...need a few and they WILL do abreviated academy...Benefits: same pay, take home car, NO FURLOUGHS!!, and the county puts more into your benefits so you pay less!!! Guys/Girls that means you will be making mor money and not have to put up with this crap hole!! Check it out:gwinnettpolicejobs.com THEY WANT OFFICERS WITH EXPERIENCE! THAT MEANS THEY WANT US...trust me I have been doing my research, and talking with a number of staff there...And for those who doubt leaving because of our "PENSION PLAN"...do the math: right now the pension plan is at 67.5%...IT is only slightly different than a 401G plan that most other agencies offer...BUT in all honesty this county is going no where, and as long as the corrupt criminals are running it you have two options: 1)YOU Can STAY AND TAKE IT IN THE REAR(and hope for that "CHANGE" that everyone in the county is waiting for) or 2) LEAVE, be happier, make more money, actually get promoted, and sit back and laugh as you watch FOX5 and watch as the county crumbles...don't listen to people who say "it's not always greener on the other side." F-THAT...those people only have a short time left...contemplate if you want to further your careerOR sink like the TITANIC!!!
Everyday it gets worse and worse!! Furlough days that cost me $200 a paycheck for each furlough day and now this insurance crap! I have the current Cigna plan that is great, covers everything and all i pay is a copay when taking my chronically ill kid to multiple doctors every month. And it covers the hospital stays completely too. NOW, with our choices for new insurance, I am screwed. It will cost me more per paycheck and I will have to pay 20% of every medical bill and a deductible before insurance pays. And we have to pay these even with our loss of pay due to furlough days. Thanks Dekalb County for screwing us one more time! This place is going to hell in a hand basket. At this rate DKPD will be a department full of rookies!
If this is such a problem, why don't you folks who live in DeKalb County start the process of voting them out? It worked for the City of Lithonia...Im sure it could work here in DeKalb. Stop bitching and do something about it...Lawd have mercy
It looks like we are getting Crowed!Ka Kaw, Ka Kaw!!!!
Maybe we can get the Delta union to represent us.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Baggage handlers at Delta Air Lines begin voting Thursday on whether to be represented by a union, another step toward resolving labor issues from Delta's 2008 merger with Northwest Airlines.
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Nov. 18. Those from Northwest are represented by the International Association of Machinists, while those from Atlanta-based Delta are non-union.
It's one of several elections to resolve the issue of unionization among worker groups that were unionized at Northwest but not at Delta. Delta has long been the least-unionized major airline, with pilots the only big group represented.
Delta flight attendants are already in the process of voting on representation in an election that concludes Nov. 3. Elections have also been scheduled for Delta customer service employees and stock clerks.
“Delta workers have been waiting for a long time for an opportunity to have their voices heard," said IAM spokesman Joe Tiberi.
But at Delta “We believe our unique culture is worth preserving," said spokeswoman Gina Laughlin in a written statement.
The election is being held under new National Mediation Board rules that are likely to make it easier for unions to organize workers. Unions at airlines and railroads, where labor relations are governed by the Mediation Board, can now win an election by getting votes from a majority of those who cast ballots, rather than from a majority of all who are eligible to vote.
Delta is urging employees to vote in the election. In the past it had encouraged employees to rip up ballots because under the old rules, non-voters were counted as no votes.
Hey Channel 46 here's a Tough Questions segment for you guys. Why does East Precinct go against the official county policy of not having ticket quotas. Is this being directed from the top or is this just a yes man major who can't loosen his puppet strings. Come on media help us out. Any of you guys with info. trust me they are waiting for people from DeKalb to come forward. They will allow you to stay anonymous.
To Anon 8:52...whats your deal with Bishop Eddie Long. You appear to have alot against him, however please do know that he and his minsitry would give a much bigger shi* about than the BOC and this county would if you got hurt. Ummm like some money to help your family out, if God forbid your were in an LODD- you'd atleast have a place to have a free funeral and so on. Quit b*tchin bout him, he's done more for DeKalb than any of the civil leaders of this county has. Including put tax dollars into the couty via his bookstores and other businesses.
While you are being part of the problem, please make an appointment to have your balls removed, as you do not deserve them anyway.
Look guys at east precicnt, here is your/our window of opportunity!
1) List on this web page the names of the Major, Capt's and Lt's and Sgt's at the East Precicnt.
2) When you are pulled in for unproductivity and given a DOC etc, BRING YOUR POCKET TAPE RECORDER WITH YOU!!!!! And make sure you ask the supervisor questioning you about not writing tickets if "there is a ticket quota". Then reply "if there is no quota on long copies then why am I being given a DOC for not writing them?". GET IT ON TAPE.
3) Speak to Jeff Wiggs with the FOP about it and let him hear the tape.
4) Then do what he tells you in regards to speaking with the media. He will no doubt be there with you saying "I told you so DeKalb Commissoners".
5) Speak to a Police Friendly lawyer about a class action lawsuit for you and other police employees & a personal lawsuit by you against the county.
Then:
They will loose.
They have massive case law against them.
They will pay.
You/we will get out pound of flesh for being sold down the river. The commissioners will be forced to see the light!
The younder guys wont have to put up with sumch a hostile work environment.
This page will not have a reason to exist anymore until arrogance, racism, stupidity and malfesance rears its ugly head again in Decatur.
I hate to say it, but unless the mentality of DeKalb voters and DeKalb rulers change their attitude, DeKalb is spiraling into a no win situation.
DeKalb BOC told the pension board they would support the gold-plated early retirement incentive in return for a loan for the annual leave pay entitled by every employee when they leave the county, plus 50 percent. The pension board agreed provided DeKalb county government contribute a extra 1/2 percent contribution to the pension along with the employees.
In the May minutes of the pension board, the BOC , represented by Finance Director Bell, reneged on the agreement. In honesty from reading the minutes, Director Bell was doing his best in a difficult situation. The BOC formally reneged on a verbal agreement to up county contributions to match the increased employee contributions of 1/2 percent salary.
Two months later the pension board minutes in July reveal that Commissioner Waldorf was on hand and not one board member asked about the reneged agreement.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that a billion dollar pension fund will be the first target for the cash starved, labor loving Democrats in control of DeKalb government who despise and treat you guys as dirt. They don't even know what you do or even care about your working conditions. The only time you see them is when they are desperate for your support.
The BOC just got 43 million from the pension fund to pay for slackers like me. They reneged on their agreement with the pension board to up county contributions to the pension fund to match the upcoming employee increase. We all thought Vern was bad. You haven't seen anything yet.
Best of luck mates!
I just realized that 17 furlough days is equal to a month off without pay.Is that right?
ok... you seem to have all the answers what can we do what can we do on nov 1st? we tried a ticket strike that didnt work. what can we do
The ticket furlough did work. We wanted furloughs instead of working for no pay. We got it.
All this talk about quota's. I'm sorry but I don't believe it. Show some proof of this or go away.
Anon 12:04
Make sure you tell the supervisors exactly that that when they pull you in for counseling for not writing any long copies. And make sure that you bring your pocket tape recorder!!!!
Anon 12:57
Since you mentioned Gwinnett County lets take a look at a few things.
You were right to mention the pension plans. Do you know why they don't have a defined benefit plan like DeKalb, it's because it saves them money. It's not because it benefits the employee. A little simple math, lets say you just got hired on here and you're 22 years old. You'll retire in the year 2040 (OUCH) and you'll receive 67.5% of your 60k a year salary. That equals a yearly payment of 40.5k You've taken care of yourself so you'll live another 30 years to the grand age of 82. That means the pension will pay you about 1.2 million dollars over your life. Thats a big chunk of change for your 90k investment. How come only 90k investment? Because you've only paid in 5% @ 60k a year for the 30 years you've been here. Of course these numbers can change a little and I simplified it but you can see the benefit of our pension. You'll have to contribute ALOT more to receive that kind of benefit and still be at the mercy of stock market. Just ask some 401k folks over the last couple of years how they like their plan.
You also mentioned promotions. If you don't think you have a very good opportunity of promotion at this department you haven't been paying attention to the last 10 years. Also just about all of the Capts, Majors, and Chiefs will be gone in the next five years, not to mention a good number of Lt's too.
So many folks can only think about the here and now. Who knows what changes are on the horizon. Things could get better or worse. Gwinnett barely escaped furlough days this year because of a tax increase. Their teachers still got furloughed. Will they always have their take home cars???
Look, just about every police officer I know likes to complain about his/her department, supervisor, citizens, and so on. Ask around, just about everyone has the same complaints. Is it perfect here, far from it but I see a means to an end, maybe you don't. I would suggest to anyone that is completely unhappy in their job to seek employment elsewhere, so I guess I'll finish by saying I sincerely wish you good luck in your job search.
Go to Gwinnett while you can. The major difference is the BOC. Dekalb citizens will always vote in ignorance. The Gwinnett BOC is smart enough to realize the importance of a top notch Police Department. The Dekalb BOC could care less because they are all crooks. Gwinnett is better!!!!!
Gwinnett is better???? Their chairman just resigned because of some shady land deals. Another commissioner had to testify at Grand Jury. The recent sanitation change was a debacle and I'm sure there were some pretty good kickbacks on that sweet deal.
Look I'm not praising our current group but don't think the same stuff aint happening there.
To anon 4:10,
I have nothing against him, but he does represent the county and their b.s. politics. As for me, god forbid something happens to me, I have my own little humble church that they could use.
As for the bitchen comment, it appears to me that I offended you because your boyfriend is your everything. So do me a favor and go sit on your daddy LONG!!!! Who knows maybe you too can sue him!!!
Dekalb County just has too much government. It does not have the financial basis to support its way of life (many employees).
The County should focus on the essentials, such as public safety, fire, 911 and the water. Maybe library also comes in. Things like shelters for the abused Storer Arts Center, swimming pools, etc attract people who are looking for freebies. DeKalb has been successful in this. It attracted a high percentage of the people displaced when Atlanta closed its housing projects. Because of the demographics, the elected officials exactly match.
a real estate man was on WSB tonight. He said that the housing values in the Atlanta Metro area had fallen to 1999 levels. Think about that and the tax base.
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