Not enough money? Didn't the commissioners just allocate 43 million dollars to refurbish Recorders Court?
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27 comments:
Yes, the security in Recorders Court is terrible but.....
A big difference that needs to be pointed out between State and Recorders Court...... Officers keep their guns in the court room!
Instead of running and cowering in a corner, uniform officers who are there for court can engage an armed suspect and neutralize the threat.
I'm trained in weapon retention and carry my weapon in a level lll holster ...... why do they make me check my duty weapon?
I wish Wendy would have addressed the point that Police Officers and Detectives are required to bring inmates to their Preliminary Hearing when in fact it's the Sheriff's Office responsibility to transport the inmates to their court hearings. That is one of the biggest security concerns with our county in my opinion.
Detectives have to escort inmates through crowds of people and sometimes irate family members of the inmates. It's only a matter of time before something bad happens...Again! No inmate should be transported in a CID car or escorted by just one Officer or Detective. Preliminary Hearings need to be held at the Jail or by video feed.
Duh! These upset criminals can simply wait outside for one of the judges to walk out, then crash, bang, boom. Sad!
Let me guess what the no more holding cell with mean to the patrol officer..You can bet the Sheriff will have the power over our Chief..and his people won't be sitting on the J-1 or taking them to the jail...What ya wanna bet. We get screwed again...Any takers?
JUST LIKE THE JAIL NURSE HAS THE SAY TO WHO GOES TO JAIL AND WHO GOES TO GRADY FOR A HANG NAIL OR AN UP SET TUMMY..GEEEEEEE
Thank god PD is armed in recorders court. I can tell you that you dont want the deputies to protect you. The sheriff's department in dekalb county are suppose to be a law enforcemnt agency. I have never witnessed a deputy in recorders court act as a law enforecment officer, more like a security officer for a private company. Deputies look for pd to handle any problems that happens at recorders court.
If the judges are so concerned about their safety have a deputy/security officer escort them outside. What about the safety of the employees that work in recorders court? I bet the sheriff's department will try to put the safety of the judges on pd.
The cheapest and easiest way to increases courthouse security is to allow police officers in uniform to keep their weapons. Instead, only Sheriff's Deputies, who only take their guns out of their holsters once a year to qualify, are allowed to be armed. Police officers in DeKalb pull their weapons out on an almost daily basis to clear houses that have been burglarized, in felony traffic stops, and in dozens of other calls. If you aren't taking your gun out, you're not going to be comfortable holding it and you're not going to be comfortable shooting it. When the shit hits the fan in a courthouse, who would you rather have drawing down on a suspect? An S.O. who last took his gun out 11 months ago, or a police officer who takes his gun out on a regular basis and it's no big deal?
Question....why do we pick up and transport our prisoners when DKPD has an officer ASSIGNED to Recorders Court with a transport van at his disposal?
I like the officer assigned to RC, but besides showing up and clocking in....what exactly does he do?
More importantly....
Why is PD responsible for transporting prisoners from Intake to court? When off duty, I have to go by the precinct and check our a unit for transport....what a PAIN IN THE ARSE......half the time, the transport list isn't even posted. When on duty, I have to leave my patrol early to pick up and transport the prisoner!
Know what's coming next? Just like the TSA, the SO deputies are going to start doing full body searches and groping everyone!
whoo hoo! Do me first!
Out of all the comments already posted none of you have seen the big picture here.....Judge Withers is pushing for a new court house completely, I wouldn't be suprised if she or one of her staff called the news themselves. So we all know what this means more policy, big gov't is gonna step in and make it bad for all of us as they continue to do. They could do a lot of things in this county to make it better, but recorders court wouldn't be on top of the list.
years ago I broght a j1 into traffic court...the judge gave him time served on my charges (57 days). The judge asked him if there was anything else holding in that would not allow him to leave.....the J1 stated yes....."MURDER".....needless to say he was placed on the ground and re-cuffed before the judge could respond as some of the people in court were shocked at the treatmemnt of the perp. You just never know whats coming out of the Jail. They have 3 court rooms inside the jail and yes it should be a "video feed" for ANY court purposes. It's just a matter of time before the flag is at half mask.Be safe....and yes....after 21 years...I'm looking at other agencies and making the calls....at least I'll have some back up. Happy Holidays!!!
DeKalb CEO gets budget ideas from Washington ....Lets declare this area a slum area to get Federal money...Here is better idea that you don't need to get from Washington...(1)stop increasing your staff salaries, (2)cut your salary by 10-15% along with those that are equivalent to your salary or make more, (3) cut county commissioners salary by 15-17%..this was given to them by Vernon(is a county commisioner a part time position),they need to make part time money
(4) stop the unnecessary building of sidewalks and the new classrooms at Training. Why the heck do we need new classrooms? We need a completely new training facility and precinct. Does anyone else need to go Washington to figure this out?
Hey PD stop complaining atleast our Sheriff fights for us. That's why We are taking all your officers.
You all are weak, u can't get nothing done. Hahahahaha!!!
Anon 1215,
At least our Chief is not a retard and has mastered the English Language. So YOU CAN BLOW ME in the sally port.
Laughed my @ss off, someones going to be looking for a new job next week in Sheriff's office. Did you see his face when she said the document was released by a Sheriff's Dept employee?
First if you would stop complaining and come up with a positive solutions as one, maybe somebody would take you all serious. Second I will agree some SO deputies only handle their weapons twice a year. But I have seen some PD officers the same the way. You all are not the most tactial officers known to man kind. Far as the jail stop bringing the same homeless man to jail once a week. Lastly if you dont like your job, find another department to go to. Oh hold on some of you came from SO and were afraid of inmates inside the jail! Stay Positive
PD AND SO stop the bickering!!!!! We are all in this s#$t together. Get a grip guys and gals! Damn!!! Some PD left for SO and some SO left for PD. You still work for Dekalb.
Thomas Brown has no law enforcement experience. He was a firefighter. To be Sheriff, you should have to have at least some law enforcement experience.
It's funny that some Detention Officer is on here saying: "Oh hold on some of you came from SO and were afraid of inmates inside the jail!"
You're kidding me right! The jail is a controlled environment so why would a "real" Officer be afraid of any inmate in a controlled environment but not on the street where nothing is controlled or known. We Officers, and I mean PD Officers are keeping the streets safe and facing deadly encounters every day while you sit in a pod and push buttons and bring the inmates trays of food.
I know plenty of Deputy's and the majority of the ones that I know do a great job and help keep the streets safe. The majority of Detention Officers that I know are slugs/perps and walk around with sloppy uniforms and ghetto attitudes.
Thomas Brown sounded almost as dumb as Sheila Edwards in that clip.
I work at the jail and to say that Its all controlled is a joke ...........I know at least ten Now Pd officers who worked at the jail and all were so scared to walk into the pods by themselves they would shake in their boots ...You have to have heart to walk into a pod of 32 murders and Inmates who have life and nothing to lose and give him a order and have no gun just spray ...........Its manhood to manhood in that battle and if you need back up their is none we are that short at The Jail .......So to all you PD officers who left the jail to go to PD it was because you cannot fight you had no heart .(for the most part )....You could not fight with your hands so go hide behind a gun .........We don't want you here anyway ......A Real man Dies once ....A Coward dies a Thousands deaths .........And when I see you now when you come in the back door ........With some homeless guy you feel tough .......Like Wanye Mapp is a real threat on the street .
When I was in CID I walked into the bay's at the old jail to pull my own look alikes for line up's many times. Other detectives did too. Don't talk BS trash Mr Detention officer.
Hey PD, dont be surprise if the sheriff takes over your weak Police department. Everyone is leaving, no one cares about you at all, not even your Chief's, Director and the CEO.
oooops I almost forgot the BOC does not support you either.
Wake up weaklings PD is weak and Sheriff's office and Gwinnett will RULE.........
Is all the name calling back and forth really necessary? Another fine example of why this place is doomed.
I do not want to get into a back in forth with you or anyone ....Its just that some Pd officer's feel they are better some how or above SO when they know in their heart they cannot do the job due to fear of a fight without the gun on the hip ............Its Just that we all need to show respect to each other for the job we do ............both are needed we are all under paid .I have many Pd officer as good friends who do a great job with heart and respect .
I'm surprised there are ANY officers left working here with Blackwater type companys like DynCorps paying 200k tax free for a years worth or work training Iraqi police. Work a year then take off 5, work another year then take off 5 years again if you budget properly. Think bigger guys...
Wendy has great!!! legs.
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