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50 comments:
This is the most obvious hook up for a promotion yet. Come on now everyone knows she was provided test info prior to taking the test for all of her promotions. Why do you think the requirements were changed to 1 year which had never been done before and are sure to be changed back to the old requirements now. She will get no respect for this undeserved promotion. BTW Im sure she will be back in CID as a Captain soon. Come on Captain Eunice do everyone a favor and stick it out for another year and a half.
Does this "acting" promotion really surprise anyone? Ya' had to figure out something would be coming down the line for Logan but ya' just didn't know what. Does anyone know exactly what an "acting" Captain is? or what one does? This has gotta be a first for the county but you can bet not the last from O'Brien!
I guess that's what being on your knees gets you...
So what's wrong with that,this way she gets training from one of the best if not the best Captain in the Department "Captain Ron Eunice". Its called on the job training. Oh and it looks like Chief O'brian sighned the B/O.
ok, I do not see Wiz Miller name signed at the bottom of the blue order? hhmmmmmmmmmmm? that shows your ignorance,
Rock on Vickie!!!!! keep you head up! Don't let them see you sweat, they are Haters.
If it was one of them , they would not say a mumbling word.
whaaaaaaaat in sam hill!?!? WOW
I saw this and wondered.... what he hell is this!?!?!???!
Strange times indeed. Since when has a lieutenant not been able to do a captain's job AS a lieutenant.?
Why the need for an "official notice".... does the Acting Captain have a burning need to wear the rank?.... is she being disregarded because she doesn't have the rank?....
Just weird.
Let's face it boys and girls. According to the blog, absolutely everything is wrong with the department and every decision that is made by anyone except the blog posters. Losers!
Hey stupids, have you seen Wiz sign a blue order? The department heads do, in both departments (fire and police if you can't figure that out)
O'Brien is just following orders.
Listen up DKPD. This move should not surprise anyone. This is woman has had everything given to her since she entered the academy. She has literally slept her way to the top and was given the blueprint by higher ups such as Tommy Lane, Wiz, and Dale H. just to name a few. She gets put off of Wiz's driving detail because she didn't know how to act at Smokybones and the karaoke bar that she went to afterwards. She was sent to East Precinct for all of two months where she had Sergeants and other Lieutenants doing her work. Then she is sent to CID, now she is a Captain. She is a joke. BTW, these are the facts, not HATE
What is the right way of doing things and what is the wrong way doing things? To do the right thing, you are willing to come up front and take the lead. To do the wrong thing is to sit back and cry about everything that goes on. A true Leader will lead. A _____ (you fill in the blank) will just cry and complain.
To all the young female officers out here, please me mindful of your reputation. I know it's tough when all these male officers are trying to get at you. You can not be promiscuous and not think people will talk. Logan may have indeed studied her butt off and got promoted on her own accord. I have no idea. Everyone knows she dated Wiz's best friend, Dale Holmes, in the past. That's fine. She was a single woman. However, because of this, she should have never agreed to be Wiz's driver. She knew the implications would be there. She will be fine though. To the males in power who call themselves taking care of her and other females, just remember at the end of the day you are actually hurting them!
I didn't want to be FIRST...so I intentionally waited! She was useless as a patrol officer..went to CID...things supposely occurred...in order to keep these issues quiet..she has been promoted! I have no respect for majority of our command staff...they are not leaders! They bend rules to fit their own personal agenda and scratches each other backs. Acting Captain, only because of incompetence. Another great fit. This will continue on until a FEDERAL investigation of corruption and discrimination occurs. Can anyone say Bolten,Flemminster,Jones, Stogner, Frank...the list continues. This department hasn't hit ROCK bottom yet..this all starts out with Promotional Exams! Now look where we are from best to worse!
This isn't about being a "hater" Anonymous 6:40, this is about ANY individual who has to make major decisions between life and death or making a case for a conviction. Which she has very little experience!
She has been hidden away in administration duties since rank of SGT. Sure, she was transfered to the road for a few weeks, but transfered right back to CID! Wake up and smell the coffee!
As far as this guy Ken C. goes maybe you can find out more about these issues. Honestly, I doubt it! Not much is being done on your previous meetings, don't expect any to happen.
Clearly no one has all the facts... and clearly all you people making posts do not know Vickie Logan and have never worked with her. She is very competent and capable and does her own work. Men can go sleep with who ever they want and be married, but when they get promoted, nothing is said about it.
To the blogger who said she had her troops at East doing her work, you are a joke to. Funny thing is there are all these supervisors out here writing folks up and cussing them out. When you run into one of those, you are gonna wish she was your supervisor.
How about everyone get off her back and stop being jealous and envious. Most of all get a life, she is not bothering you or disrupting yours.
Keep your head up Vickie Logan!!!!! Make your haters your motivators.
You're right Anon 0640 I am a "hater". I hate the fact that the rules regarding time in rank have been changed when she has come up for promotion. I hate the fact that they've been changed back as soon as she has gotten promoted. I hate the fact that she is moved into a captain's spot that hasn't even been vacated yet.
The rumor mill says that ol Captain Ron was reconsidering his retirement even before "Acting" Captain Logan was moved out of CID. I wonder what the folks at the top are going to do when Eunice decides to stay?
It has always been that way with females out here, sergeants always cuddle them, they dont have the same expectations, every single call they go on they get a second unit. There are a few who are out here and kick ass. Listen females yes it is more difficult for you. It takes more for you to prove yourselves. As for the majority of you, get your head out of your ass, get off your phone, and take your headphones off, stop painting your nails and have a clue. I blame most of the sergeants, it is without a doubt gender descrimination
She has dated quite a few people in this Dept. A certin Sgt in training to mention one... She a nice person but not smarter then the stupidest PO11 we have.. Sorry about that, not trying to be mean. I heard that she doesnt have a mirror in her bathrooms......We all know why that is,,,, cant look at herself in it and feel good..... I do like her, she just doesnt deserve it...Shes Capt
Proter jr.....
Well she will be ACTING that's for damn sure.
Im so fed up with what affirmitive action has done for the world.
Just so people know, if you hold rank dont think I will respect you any more.
I will glady nod my head as if I understand you, and then go do it my way to begin with.
To anon 249 pm tell her to get off Her Own Back. Tghats seems to be da problem..... hhhaaa
Just about every poster on this subject should be ashamed of themselves. Real nice posts on here . Guess it always makes one feel better to tear another person down. You folks need to go to church or something. We wonder why the public has lost respect for police officers? Hell look at the childish posts throught this blog.
FYI this isn't the first blue order I've seen published for "acting" promotions.
Anon 12:13,
Never in the history of this police department has a blue order been issued for "Acting Captain."
Maybe acting assistant chief or acting chief.
Like someone said earlier, our command staff from assistant chief to chief is "acting" and doing a piss poor job of it.
Maybe instead of them running off to the FBI academy or Northwestern U, they go to Hollywood.
Even when Logan is actually promoted to Capt. she will still be just ACTING like a Capt. No one takes her serious and everyone in the department knows it is a sham.
There are some really good female officers in this department. Not all of them act like Logan. But they all get painted with the same broad brush because of horrible supervisors like Logan.
It is always possible to have a few people who don’t like you make up things about you that are not true. BUT when the entire damn department knows what you are about it’s not called hating it’s called the TRUTH. And it’s not somebody else’s fault. It’s her fault.
I am not hating on Logan. Hell, I don’t even know her well enough to say I dislike her. But I can’t ever see the day when I would respect her.
It is not like Logan did some stupid things 10 - 15 years ago when she was in her 20s but now she has matured. I could understand that but this woman has to be 35 years old and it appears that she acts like she is 18.
Some may say that my lack of respect for Logan is because she is a black female. But to that I will say this. Logan is certainly no worse than several white male Captains and Majors in this department who would lick a mule’s ass if they thought the Chief would promote them for it.
Of course there are some good white male supervisors and there are some good black female supervisors. Logan just isn’t one of them.
I know of one major who wouldn't necessarily lick a mules ass, because it would be hard to lick ones self, even while trying to be the Center of attention.
TO 0728......You must be new. I'd request some of our female officers as back up before I would request some of our males. I've never been coddled (not cuddled as you spelled it) If you are working with an officer, female or male, and they are slacking STEP UP and say something! Take em behind a building and speak your mind. Then shake it off and go kick ass together! Thats how we USED to do it. Race and gender will always be an issue but all that really matters is we all bleed blue blood! Oh, and if you ever wanna go head to head in the ring...leave your name on here. I'll look you up and we can get together. You may learn a few tricks that might help you on the street. Stay safe!
There are some great female officers in our department that work their butts off, but there's also a lot of crappy ones who get protected and promoted when they don't deserve it. When ever someone points that out, the good female officers feel the same way, all of the worthless ones come running to her defense and use the word "haters!"
I think Eunice should stay.
Captain Eunice from all of us...................STAY ....................at least until the list runs out.
Anon 8:23 You need to be careful about what you post....There are two SGTS in Training. You never know who reads these post. And how do you know who Logan is fooling aroung with....sounds like your jealous or you need to get a life...
She is a great Lt to work for. When she gets her promotion, I suspect that her Lts will enjoy working for her once they get to know her.
Anon 2:04
Good advice! Unfortunately, there are several young females conducting themselves the exact same way as Logan did. Some people have to learn the hard way!
What is very sad to me is that there are only 3 comments on the post about Ofc. BR Corn's death. But there are 30 comments on this post. Really folks? No one can wish a retired officer RIP, but all of ya'll take the time to trash Vickie Logan? Where are your priorities??? I guarantee there will be less comments on the post regarding Sgt. Wayne Horne's death as well. I pity all of you....
If you all don't like her THAT MUCH, then I suggest that you DO BETTER on the promo tests than she has. Whatever you may say about her, she is not lacking for brains..which is more than I can say about all of you posers here...odds are, at the end of the day, she STILL outranks each and every one of your posting! So put that in YOUR pipe and smoke it, losers!!!!
Anonymous 6:47
It is difficult to do better on the promotional test when you are given insight from the Director of Public Safety and an Assistant Chief of Police who have access to the test template and the test results. It becomes more difficult when the rules are changed so that you would be eligible for a test that you otherwise would be in-eligible for. How is it that a just over a year Lieutenant with 13 years on the job scored number 1 on a test over 3-5 year Lieutenants with 20 years’ experience? Do you really believe that she is smarter than “ALL” 40 candidates most of whom have more experience than she? Another fact you may not have considered is that in the time she was a Lieutenant she spent very little time in the Uniform Division, the test is made up of Uniform Division scenarios so how did she know the answers without the experience? Is she that brilliant? You say she is not lacking in brains, then why would she engage in activity that was a violation of DeKalb County ordinances and then challenge the Sergeant who made her aware of her violation? Going forward how does this Sergeant respect this “Acting Captain” who he knows for a fact doesn’t know what she is doing? As far as her out ranking the posters she lacks the confidence of more than one Captain or Major you can believe that!
Petty bitching is all I am seeing on these blogs.
Let a person do his/her job and then see what happens. A first, second or third rank supervisor cannot please everyone and will never do so in the future.
So put your jealousies to bed and think about your job that you signed on to do instead.
You make allegations of test integrity problems. Someone post exactly who had access to test criteria. There is a facilitator for the department with all the answers to your allegations. The accusers should call IA or Human resources to make a formal complaint or shut up slandering people.That will never happen because blogger is spineless.
Affirmative action. Plain and simple. Get over it.
If you don't like it, quit and move on.
You act like the department has never done this before. Can we say Anne Ramey? Sonya Porter? etc...etc.....
Anyone who has been with this department for any length of time can name them. Just smile and go along with it cause you cant change it.
Who has access to the test criteria? The people on the committee that designs the test! Duh! If you're lucky enough to be female and friends with someone on one of those committees, you have a good chance of doing very well on the promotional exam.
Auburn makes sure that DeKalb will not have any lawsuits because of the right sex and color not being promotes. They will make it across the board on everyone taking the test. Its call diversification.
Where is the proof? Does anyone think it was done for the last Sgt and Lt test?
Brother and Sisters in blue, we are better than this. Stop with the negative comments there is nothing positive that will come of it and it makes us all look bad.
I see alot of people have lost sleep about Capt Logan. Capt Eunice has not thought about staying. Alot of you all wrote posts when Logan went to the Director's Office. Now that another LT went to the Director's Office there was nothing written. It is just plain good old fashion HATE for Logan. She was my supervisor at Center Pct. There were no issues. She had our back. She took the promotional exams and placed very well. Maybe some of you haters need to start studying and preparing for the promotional exams. She will do fine as the Acting Capt. There are supervisors out there that some of you really dont want. There are more pressing issues out there to deal with, move on.
Promotions like this undermine the work ethic and morale of the entire department.
You have people here who have dedicated a good portion of their lives to this department. It is wrong to make promotions like this. The outrage is that dedication, devotion, and hard work simply doesn't pay off. The person in question just hasn't paid her dues.
Sure some of you more radical feminist or people so jaded with visions of racism will disagree.
This is a perfect example of what is wrong with this department. We need solid leadership. Not social promotions.
I and the people in my circle (both black and white) look at these types of promotions and say.....wonderful. It really makes our jobs easier.
Whether your in uniform or CID (it is easier to do in uniform) you show up, do your time, and go home with a big smile on your face knowing your one day closer to retirement and you just made some of the easiest money you'll ever make,,,,,mooching off the county.
And the likes of promotions such as this are going to change this place? Squeeze us to be more productive? Motivate us? I dont think so.......
The ------- their given aint nothing like the ------- their getting.
" If you're lucky enough to be female and friends with someone on one of those committees, you have a good chance of doing very well on the promotional exam."--
REALLY ASSHOLE??? Because there has never been a male in this department that has gotten "lucky"??? Let me tell you how lucky I am to be a female...I've had to prove myself more often than you, I have to be better, stronger, smarter...because I'm female, just to get the respect that you get just for putting your boots on! There are a few of us around here that worked hard to get that respect. We are not all the same! Some of us actually bust our asses! Stop your crying and do your damn job. You are part of the problem!
I AM SOOO TRIPPIN ON HOW PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT LOGAN BEING "ACTING CAPTAIN." BUT THE FUNNY THING IS, SHE IS GOING TO GET HER RESPECT ANYWAYS!!!! YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HER ON THIS BLOG, BUT WHEN YOU SEE HER, ITS YES MAAM, NO MAAM. SO, WHY NOT JUST CONGRATULATE AND MOVE ON. WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS TO WORRY ABOUT IN THIS DEPARTMENT LIKE LOW MORALE, MANPOWER, AND THE COUNTY TAKING MONEY OUT OF OUR PAYCHECKS. CAPT LOGAN, YOU KEEP DOING YOU!!!!
You know I have just started reading the blog again. I had given it up for quite some time. I have been retired for some time and things have gotten so infuriating that I gave up. However, to those who refer to persons referring to Logan's promotion, or acting promotion as wrong I have this to say. I am a past ranking officer, of you know what that even mean, with a 3 digit badge number. That should give you an idea of when I was with DKPD. I had the assignment of being one of Logan's training partners. She should have never made it out of FTO training. Many attempts failed at washing her out. Finding out that she is now an acting Captain makes me even more proud to be from DeKalb and not still there. If that makes me a hater so be it. often the truth hurts. Good luck to those such as Eunice and a few other of the true officers still left with DeKalb. God be with you all.
To Anon May 5th at 823pm. I see why you retired, you are developing Alzheimer's. Now what I KNOW is that Logan was academically one of the top of her Academy class. Ask her instructors, one who is still here LT. Braun. She was also chosen to given the class speech at graduation. Furthermore, neither of her FTOs had a 3 digit badge number. And to go on, I worked South with her as well and she was a top producer several times. Never has anyone attempted to wash her out. She did her required FTO time and nothing more!!!!! Please stay retired, clearly your mind is going. Like previous posts, there are other things to be concerned with.
Why the heck does everyone think just because you been here 20 years, you deserve the promotion? Dekalb County has always had this testing process. Everytime a 10-15yr vet gets something over a 20yr vet are we gonna cry.
Fact is she will be the Capt. Get over it and move on. I can't believe you people have been this consumed with one female / person. She will have to prove herself as a Capt under BC Harris. If she does not show up, I'm sure we will know.
Anon 1:42, you sound like you're insecure and have a guilty conscious. There's a lot of hardworking female officers in our department who are top notch, but none of them sound like you. They complain about people like you as much as the boys do.
If the last promotional test was leaked or the answers given out, then who did they want to be at the top? The top new Sgts are a WF, BM, WM, WM, BF, and WM. The top two Lts are both WMs. Please give it a rest, we have other stuff that we need to be concerned with, like how the BOC is going to make up this deficit. Furloughs? Unpaid holidays?
Logan has a degree, get over it!!!
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