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69 comments:
Old VJ is likely to start more trouble as he cannot stay out of the slime light
Hmmm. "VAJ". My "vaj" is offended. Maybe it's not too late to get a sex-change operation...
ok.....
Angus? LOL
What an arrogant SOB......dont sweat it Doug.....your so much higher in stature than that man can ever hope to be...but then again...you could yell to VERN....."Hey Vern...I know who he is!!!!" and leave it at that
It appears Doug took the high road. What he could have said was,”One of the biggest ass hole / criminals I have ever covered.”
Anon 2:10: You make a good point and I would add there are several people who know who HE is.
Instead of worrying about what Doug is saying about him Vernon should be more concerned about what Don Frank is saying about him.
I can't figure out your point?
No furlough days, no health insurance drastic changes. He supported employees and Tax Payers.
See if you can find Little Burell.
He is never at the BOC meetings.
Vernon was. Lets be honest.
the police department needs a sex change.
Angus...no wonder he's so full of BS!
It wasn't uncommon to see V.A.J. hanging out at bars on county time & dime trying to coerce young, ignorant, loose women into thinking he was the President and going home with him. Just ask any of his former protection detail. He was and is a real piece of sh*& and a perfect representation of Dekalb County.
I agree with Anon 4:49. I would be willing to bet Vernon made Dougs girl a 17 victim.
Vernon Jones has got to be the most complex and misunderstood politician in the history of DeKalb government. I strongly suspect if a competent psycologist were to examine Vern, they would have real difficulty in classifying his personality. What we do know is that Vern plays a good political game, is crazy like a fox, and very smart, or he would be in prison like his associate, Don Franks.
What scares the hell out of the employees is that Vernon has no job, and is looking to DeKalb government again for future employment.
To those of you extolling the virtues of good ole' Vern, let's review modern history.
What DeKalb CEO enacted the NO "pay for performance plan" that drove DeKalb employee salaries into the dirt to pay for three big bond issues? What sane politician would allow the city of Dunwoody to leave the county with no attempt to meet their valid complaints of taxation without representation in DeKalb government? What was Vern secretly doing at the Athens Olympics when Mr. Hicks inopportunely committed suicide? Why did Vern order DeKalb Homeland security to perform counter-surveillance against the DeKalb DA's office? Who ordered Don Franks to perform GCIC/NCIC criminal background checks against Vern's political and journalistic enemies?
As clearly demonstrated, Vern is a sleazy, smart politician who will no doubt be found attractive by many of DeKalb voters.
If any of you doubt my fears just look at the reelections of Cynthia McKinney by DeKalb voters, and last heard rallying support to Libya's deposed dictator, Ghadafi.
My opinionated opinion,
KenC
"slime light" ROFLMAO !!!
4:49 - well, bless your heart, honey. (Isn't that what they say here in the south when someone is being totally stupid??)
Oh, and AMEN BROTHER: "Vernon should be more concerned about what Don Frank is saying about him." I mean, how much good is that pay-off doing him in jail???
The one common thread between Vernon and Ellis is Stogner. You know.........the convicted racist. And the benefits keep a crumbling........
The FBI in Atlanta claims to have a full time public corruption unit focusing on just GA. Although their field office occupies an entire multi story building in Dekalb Co they seem to overlook the plethora of corruption and thievery going on in Dekalbs local govt.
I hear VaJina has been calling several people in the Department hoping for picture opportunities for his campaign.
Dekalb county is not a bad place to work.
The devils in charge are deaf. they will never know the day when they will understand what is said.
Man some of you guys really have a computer DAMN. The sad thing is you can do research before you post and don't do it. Well I don't have a lot of time but I will point out just a few facts. Don Franks is not in prison yet. The federal trial did not go like you guys think it de, the federal record room is open daily, the facts of the trial are therefore only people that got paid are the plaintiff attorneys. Ken C please get your facts together. And for those of you that think DeKalb is a total dump, go work someplace else do us all that favor. Little Burrell has made DeKalb City Hall East by bringing all of the Atlanta rejects here. His administration has been in the news constantly and you non Dekalb voters continue to blame Vernon Jones. He is not in office. This is like Obama blaming Bush, now I got you following me (smile) and yes what has Rock on OB done for you his job was held while he got his degree and what has he done? Well he is building his retirement so he can leave with his fat check. Can you leave with him? Vernon went to a bar no fight took place or nothing just a comment about a 17 victim. Wow get a life people were getting screwed and we worry about this.
VAJ's new campaign slogan can be "Support V.A.J., A Little Prison Time Does A Body Good."
It really is a shame all the standup guys have left Dekalb leaving us with a bunch of brainless yes men. I respect them for being true to their beliefs and leaving but it would be nice to have one respected person around here.
Some of these things you discuss
most voters either forgot or never knew anything about. DeKalb Voters will remember when the county wasn't under water. When their property wasn't in the tank and worth less than what they owe.
And was clean.Vernon was approachable even if he said was what you didn't want to hear.If you keep bashing him. You draw more attention to him. Give some
hard cold facts and not inuendos.
Hey Anon 10:24 everyone is out for them selves. I remember when Tebo was here and everyone complained how bad it was around here. Well we have the same circus just a new set of clowns. At least this guy had a vision and a plan. What do we have now? He took the command staff to the Commissioners meetings and had them speak on different subjects of especially and the really sad thing is we still have a lot of his stuff in place. Yep we need LEADERSHIP. It was not this bad under Vernon and you guys know it.
Anon 9:53, I have three facts for you:
You're a dumbass.
You can't spell.
You can't write intelligible sentences.
But forget all that, what's your point? You don't really have one because all you have brought up, as far as I can tell from your horrible writing, is irrelevant nonsense!
Don Franks isn't in jail yet? So? What's your point? What does that prove about him or Vernon? Don Franks plead guilty. He didn't want to go to court and face around 25 years in prison when he saw all of the evidence they had against him. He plead guilty. He is awaiting sentencing. He was a dirty crook and he was Vernon's right hand man. What's your point??
Vernon lost in federal court. The federal court ruled he was a racist and created a hostile work environment for white employees and black employees who weren't racist scumbags like him! So what if he hasn't paid the verdict? So what if only the lawyers got paid. That doesn't change the verdict, dumbass! He's still a convicted racist! The fact that Vernon hasn't paid tells me that he doesn't abide by court orders.
Vernon was a cancer to this county. We're still suffering from the damage he caused.
@Anon 3:29 PM has it right.
Vernon took a mildly corrupt County (most are) and ruined it. His term coincided with inflated property value increases. He boasted that he never increased property taxes(technically true). He had the County live off of the increase in County tax revenue resulting from inflation of property assessed values. Vernon spent every penny of extra property tax money that came in. He floated about $1/2 BILLION in bonds that taxpayers are still paying for. Most of the bond money was spent (wasted)in Districts 3,4 and 5 even though Districts 1 and 2 pay for the majority of the bond costs.
As found by the Fed Dist Court, he drove out capable white employees and replaced them with ...
Vernon about doubled the number of County employees from that of Lianne Levitan's prior administration even though the County population grew by less than 4% between 2000 and 2010. Burrell refuses to cut the number of employees to bring the budget in line. He prefers to raise taxes. Districts 3, 4 and 5 see little or no actual dollar increase because assessed property values have decreased there. Districts 1 and 2 carry a larger share of the burden because they are still paying paxes largely based on the inflated 2006-2007 assessed values.
Vernon lost Dunwoody. Burrell is on his way to losing Brookhaven. That will really hurt the tax base.
Question: What does Vernon do to make a living? Does his friend who owns an IT company still get work from the County? Wasn't Vernon some sort of a "consultant" to that company?
As a taxpayer, I will say that Vernon called me a few times to discuss my complaints and concerns. We did not agree but at least he was willing to talk. Burrell operates on a strict code of silence and not listening so he can deny that he knew anything about anything.
The truth is, VAJ does have some supporters. Even Jim Jones got a bunch o' people to kill themselves just because he said so. So? The other truth is, MOST people who know or know of VAJ know without a doubt he is a vile, despicable human being. And THAT is about the nicest thing I can say about him.
All of you guys or girls bashing Vernon probably don't live in
Dekalb County and can't vote for
him anyhow.Those seniors who vote
and especially, the people along Candler,and Memorial remember when
the area was clean.
A cleaner DeKalb will vote for
Vernon. He has a record.
Hey Anon 3:29 like I said look at your facts. I guess you agree the country is suffering from Bush. Its ok not to like someone but get your facts right. Don Franks has not been sentenced another fact.
Beam me up Scotty! We're still suffering from the damage Vernon caused? How about the damage that is the history of the south? That is what has damage our human relations.
Some of you clowns are quick to harp on Dekalb County's failure in a court case, yet you ignore your own ancestor's racism that continues today. This race thing was not created by black folks.
Vernon must keep a lot of you up at night. He has been gone for 3 years and your mind is still controlled by his name. WOW, can't someone stay current with today's matters of importance versus debating what true or false? There has been a lot of misinformation spread based upon personal likes and dislikes.
Move into the present.......forget who won the last war and deal with the present battle.
Better get your ip address changed now as VAJ will have his henchman get it revealed under false pretenses as in the past. Welcome back Vern, welcome back...
I worked for DeKalb County for 6 years as Head of Security for its multiple facilities. I uncovered several theft incidents, mainly items going out of the old Facilties Management storage warehouse and a portion of the Memorial Drive once used for storage. The issues fell on a Department Directors deaf ears. I went to the prior Director of Risk Management with the same issue and he said if I were to be willing to give details to The Police Dept. he would initiate the next steps and put someone in touch with me. That was the last I heard of anything. Why didn't I just go ahead on my own. I needed to finish out my career without retrobution. The happiest day of my life was when I retired 3 years ago and watched Dekalb County Government from my rear view mirror.
Hey Anon 5:44 you can take a Mule put a 1500.00 saddle on it. Paint its toe nails and it still won't win the Kentucky Derby. Your argument sounds great but your facts are wrong. Do your research bud. Dunwoody is history and the sad thing is they benefited a lot from Dekalb County.
Ellis his own private police force just like Vernon. Anybody in Decatur that wants an officer calls on Director Miller and they are dispatched.
So how can we be short on officers on the road to answer a 911 call?
i want to say for the record, i did some home work on vaj. it's interesting what i found. while it should not matter, i'm white,been an officer with dkpd for a few years, didn't like vernon, but ran into someone who said, have you ever met the man or are you just passing on what someone else said. lol! so after i read many of the blogs and did my own research, here is what i found.
1)when vj was accused of doing background checks, the States Attorney General, the GBI and an independent DA from Augusta georgia ran 80 names of supposedly people who vj used dkpd officers to run checks on that also included talking to the investigating agencies interviewing80 dkpd officers. Verdict! vaj found innocent of having anyone do any such thing.
2) vaj accused of rape. it was investigated by dkpd (including officers who i know personally said negative things about vaj) dekalb DA and the GBI. Facts! vaj cleared of any wrong doing.
3) discrimination against white employees. There were four defendents, three blacks including vaj and 1 white richard stogner the highest ranked employee under vaj that all employees report to. There were four plaintiffs including 3 whites and 1 black. Facts, the first case resulted in the jury ruling against the white female and the black male. the other two won a verdict against vaj, the black female and richard stogner the white male administrator for the county, which was reported by in the national legal publishing newspaper as the lowest amounts ever of a case like this of $167,000 total for the two remaining plaintiffs. The case was appealed by the county and the plaintiffs attorney were afraid of some additional information discovered about one of the two remaining plaintiffs. their attorneys didn't think they could win and they settled for attorneys fees which sent the case back to the lower courts and judge duffey signed off on it. however, the final results on the court documents reflect there was no judgement made at all against vaj and the county and everyone thing looks as if nothing has ever happened and it's no judgement against any of the defendents. but what i don't understand is why the county hired richard stogner back after being accused of discriminating against white people.
finally some other little things, vaj did not increase our pension or reduce the years needed to retire and several other things i found out that vindicated vaj.
if you don't like him, that's fine. but if this cite is going to remain credible, let's report the facts and not sound so discruntled.
vaj has been gone for three years. since then, no pay increases, furlough days, health care cost ran up and what is burrel ellis doing. sorry folks, i was wrong about vaj, but i'm right about ellis.
There is an obvious effort here by some to rewrite the history of the Vernon Jones administration. Isn't that cute! They've started a little "online grassroots" campaign to paint Vernon as a nice guy! What a joke! I got news for you! There's a lot of people who will never forget how awful Vernon was, and won't let anyone else forget it or lie about it!
Everyone just relax, all right? Believe me, if there's one thing Ron Burgundy knows, it's women.
Hey Anon 12:39 as long as you post facts I will agree with you. The main fact is you can't vote and only repeat the stuff you hear in the street. Take a look at the good job Anon 11:23 did. He did research and posted facts, GREAT JOB 11:23!!! Tell me what has Ellis and the current administration done for you???
HAHA when the investigating agency's Chief of Police calls VAJ to inform him of rape allegations immediately as it is reported I would say is OBVIOUSLY a biased investigation. Sell your sh*% somewhere else idiot. We aren't buying it. Where there is smoke there is fire. Just because VAJ had some Vagisil (Tebo) handy doesn't mean he's clean.
say what you wanna say and lie like you wanna lie, we have wiz and the two brothers in charge, and we are worse off than when vaj or lianna was there.
say what you wanna, vaj is bad to the bone and we need him back.
It's funny how so many of the Jones defenders have such similar problems with spelling and grammar.
I think none of you guys could possibly work as officers. I dont want to disclose too much about myself because I am still employed there but I will say i have been working in Dekalb since 2004. I have watched my pay increase every year I worked under Vernon even if it was a lousy 1% across the board raise but it increased. Now i have to work Part time and cut down on my J-2 time cause of these Furlough days and pension Increases and rising insurance. Sure VAJ wasnt the Ideal Boss but My Check was consistent... now when I get a check I am rolling the dice cause it looks different every 2 weeks. Also I could carry more than 240 AL and SL, and I got a SL check every year and I considered it my Christmas Bonus, but Look at me now. I would rather have VAJ then the Burrell anyday.. and my co- workers and family feel the same way.
Anon 11:23,
Jury's do not find people "innocent" They find them guilty or not guilty. A very big difference.....You moron.
Anon 11:23 is a liar. He didn't "do homework" and find that crap he posted in court documents. Look at section "3." I know, it's hard to understand what he's talking about with those horribly written run-on sentences, but try your best! Does that look like stuff that would be written in a court ruling? This is what I am talking about:
"The case was appealed by the county and the plaintiffs attorney were afraid of some additional information discovered about one of the two remaining plaintiffs. their attorneys didn't think they could win and they settled for attorneys fees which sent the case back to the lower courts and judge duffey signed off on it."
That kind of information wouldn't appear in court rulings. It's rumor and innuendo. I am not saying it's true or false, I'm just saying that kind of stuff wouldn't appear in a court document. So where could it have come from?? That is something Vernon say!! It looks like we have one or two trolls from the "Re-Elect Vernon" camp making a lot of horribly written posts, spreading false information. Why? Vernon knows this power and influence of this blog. They think if they keep repeating their lies, eventually people will start to believe them. They wan't to paint Ellis as the devil and Vernon as a saint. No one is putting Ellis on a pedestal. He sucks. But Vernon sucked too and he was a racist asshole on top of it.
You might as well give up your pro-Vernon campaign on here, because there's a lot more of us who remember his bullshit than there are of you trying to lie about it.
Ok folks check this out! Burrell just hired a man out of Atlanta as Economic Development Director at a salary of 168,000 plus a car allowance of 6,000. Now the woman who had the job, who just happen to be white made less then 98,000. The guy is the highest paid director with minimal people to supervise. No wonder why we can't get raises. Burrell keeps giving the money away. And you guys keep talking about Vernon. Keep writing those tickets guys
@Anon 11:23 10/19
VAJ alleged rape charge. Vernon says that he was "acquitted". This is not correct.
What happened was that the evidence was referred to the aggressive (Joke meant) DeKalb County DA Ms Keyes. She sat on it for two years and did nothing. The Complainant withdrew the charge after waiting two years. No reason was given for why she did it. Maybe during the two years, Vernon leaned on her a bit. We will never know. But surely, he was not "acquitted".
I think you can sum up Jone's true character with the fake campaign photo he created with he and Obama. I'm surprised it hasn't been posted here yet. He's a fake and a liar at best.
Dekalb's Recent Leaders: 1) Sheriff murders Sheriff Elect. 2) County attorney commits suicide while serving Jones. 3) Bishop Eddie Long fraudulently stealing from his own congregation while having sex with its male youth. 4) CEO Jones found guilty of racism, charged with rape, etc, etc, etc...
Where can I get an application haha...
I have been with the county over 15 years. I have seen so many changes. Some good but most bad. Our department has been reduced to the bottom of the barrel. I didn't care for Vernon's cockiness nor did I like the fact that he put racist perps in high ranking positions. I believe that's when we started to plumit. HOWEVER....under Vernon, my pay was not cut, I was never furloughed, I did not lose holidays, and my vacation time wasn't STOLEN from me. I saw raises...minor raises..but I saw them. I do not live in DeKalb County (NEVER EVER EVER WOULD I LIVE THERE) so I can not vote for CEO. But you can bet your ass that I'll be calling all of my friends who do live in the county to make sure they vote for him. I can deal with racism...unfortunately that's a part of life. What I CAN NOT deal with is skipping the grocery store because I don't have enough in my account to pay my damn mortgage! I do not live outside my means and with our current administration I am struggling to pay the few bills that I do have. Bring it on VJ....just bring it with a raise, holidays, and gimmie my vacation time back!
You all that are bashing Vernon are wasting your time. Dekalb voters will vote for Vernon before they vote for Ellis Again.
If you are Police tell us what he did to you..
This blog sounds like looney tunes.
Who do you want.??????????????????
Yep, it was during his failed campaign for the U.S. Senate. Obama couldn't distance himself from that idiot fast enough.
GREAT JOB GUYS... Keep the truth rolling forward.
Anyone else notice that the Jone's supporters comments coincide with the Federal Pen break times. I guess his former protection detail members are using the prison library computers to post on this blog. I'm sure he needs more hush money for them thus his run for his former glory hole as Mr. CEO.
Where is Clark Griswold?
We need ya!
-Anon 1118
My God, to VAJ or not to VAJ. To Ellis or not to Ellis. Honestly, I don't want either one of them anymore. But since I bailed out of residing in DeKalb County several years ago now, it's no longer up to me. Heck, if Herman Cain is not selected as the Republican nominee for President, then DeKalb County ought to recruit him. Now that might get me to move back. At least I know making a career here would improve immensely.
There is nothing left in Dekalb to recoup. As soon as Brookhaven annexes it is OVER. The BOC knows it and is trying to prevent it but it's going to happen sooner or later and all that is left is the current government dependent democrats that only consume the fruits of others labors and produce nothing.
All of the pro Vernon posts have the same bullet points. Are they all from the same person, or did they all get the same memo from Vernon?
I believe in giving credit where credit is due, but giving Vernon credit for not furloughing us or taking away our sick checks is absurd. Vernon didn't have to deal with an almost worldwide financial crisis. I'm not excusing the CEO or BOC for the way they have treated us. They could have and should have made better choices for police and fire, but Vernon treated us like crap when times were good.
Vernon only gave you guys raises because the tax digest and tax collections were rapidly increasing during his 2000-08 terms that coincided with the real estate bubble. He also hired about 3000 more employees during that time to make the government look (and "work") more like the general County population.
The bubble burst in 2008-09 and there just ain't no more cash freely flowing in. The recent 4.5 mil tax increase was meant to keep the current bloated employee level, pay off some of the money borrowed from the (your) pension fund for the early buyouts, and to replenish the County reserve fund that had that been spent down to zero. The employee level has been kept but there is no information on the other two goals. Burrell probably already is spending the reserve as shown by his new $167K + expenses hire.
Commissioner Rader is trying to delay Brookhaven, in his own District, from bailing out. I cannot figure out why he is carrying the ball on this for Commissioners Johnson, Mays, Sutton and Watson. They must have something on him or he is paying off for their votes on the recent $1.6 million La Vista park purchase on which one of his constituents made about a half million.
Most of you are bashing Vernon
with stuff the taxpayers don't know
what you are talking about.
Taxpayers and employees should be concerned as to how the county is
being run and how their taxes are spent.Yes Vernon used a picture that gave the appearance of an indorcement by President Obama.But
CEO ELLIS
spends more time in Washington he says helping to make national policies. If he can't help DeKalb
County what is he doing there.???
You Bloggers who do you want for CEO?
Anon 9:19, good point, the only Democrat candidates for CEO is Ellis and Jones.
The DeKalb citizens have the choice between "Bevis and Butthead" for the Democrat candidates. With choices like this, DeKalb voters are screwed.
My extremely opinionated opinion.
KenC
Well its been a week of you guys talking about Vernon like he is stil in office. He is gone and has been gone for 3 years. but if you guys insist on talking about him let me rewind to 2007 when the CEO told the BOC we need to start tightening our belts and they refused
Its obvious you people let personal opinions get in the way of hard facts. Vernon was a better CEO then Burrell, hands down. And to think the Republican Party could do a better job wow. Was George Bush a Democrat?
Haha I guess we're all supposed to overlook those little details. Some people live in their own fictitious world.
Why do people argue over whether Vermen is better or worse than Idiot = When neither is worth a $ht ? Nor is Stan Watson worth two dead flies !
The only good thing is you VJ haters can't VOTE. Also under Ellis the county lost its AAA bond rating. Just some more food for thought.
And you VAJ supporters can't vote either due to your felony records so go sell your garbage elsewhere moron. We will be back to voter registration based on property ownership or other evidence of responsible citizenship so enjoy it while you can because the world now sees what happens when democrats get control, complete pillage and plunder.
Vernon walks into the bar and sits down next to a man with a dog at his feet. "Does your dog bite?" Vernon asks. "No," was the reply.
A few minutes later, the dog took a huge chunk out of Vernon's leg. "I thought you said your dog doesn't bite!" Vernon said indignantly.
"That's not my dog," was the answer...
Just a little humor. If Vernon resurfaces we all (DKPD and DK taxpayers) will have to either get out of Dodge or live with it.
Just in case, I am preparing a new TV script. "The Return of TeBo"
Did Yall hear that KW was promoted from Dir of purchases to Chief. How can a chubby boy who is known to accept $$ under the table be in charge of fin & P/C. Head scratcher for shure. Unbelievable how he put the blinders on B.E. and the Commish. Stay tuned, after all it is the seasone to wear oranj
What is Vernon's relationship with Sonja Hicks?
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