Thursday, July 18, 2013

North Precinct To Close?

Rumor has it North Precinct will close at the end of the month. The officers and supervisors will be scattered throughout the precincts.

Center, in all likelihood will get 40 officers and 6 sergeants. The remaining officers will go to East and South.

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well thats great news. More Officers to handle the work load, plus another academy class next month.

Anonymous said...

We have almost 200 vacant police officer positions...so I think we need to do some serious promotions. At least that way everyone can get that %5 raise...

Anonymous said...

Yes, I agree with more promotions and man all units appropriately

Anonymous said...

More promotions ? There was just a large promotion made. Thats the problem around here. Everyone wants to be a chief while there are so few indians. This place needs more officers and needs to stop loosing officers. There could be 20 calls pending and most sgts here wont do a report if one is needed. " start me a unit " is how most respond. I know its not your job to handle calls all day, but you can do a report once in a while. You are still police officers. Lead by example, from the front. You will stand out.

On another note, i heard the pension will be going up 20% in August. Just wait till open enrollment. Im sure our rates for health insurance will go up substancially thanks to the "AFFORDABLE care act" aka Obama Care. Soon we will be paying Dekalb to come to work. I say we pack a BOC meeting in August. There aint much more left to loose at this point.

SERENITY NOW

Anonymous said...

more promotions? six sergenats and two lieutenants will be distributed throughoug the county.I would assume no more than five or six promotions to sergeants and maybe two more to lieutenant off of this list.

with the last promotions and North Precinct going away we have plenty of sergeants and lieutenants.

Anonymous said...

Ok, promote everyone or demote a bunch. That will essentially fix most of the problems we have now. It seems 40% of our officers have the rank of sergeant or above. The span of control is way too low for this department. 1 supervisor should be able to supervise 10 officers, if they can't, find someone who can. We have a horrible retention rate because non-ranking officers leave due to the tremendous and unsustainable workload. At the end of the day, we answer calls and investigate crimes, the less people we have to do that actual function, the more stressful the work environment. More info: http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=1022&issue_id=102006

Anonymous said...

Apply to ILP where all of the other North loving officers who are afraid to work the streets go! Start making everyone be what they were trained to be, a damn cop! Quit making special units for people who can only work day shifts, need weekends off, holidays off, want to wash the chief's car for him, and are afraid to get out there and do what we are supposed to do, answer calls and stop crime! At the end of the career you can say man I miss that desk, or that neighborhood cookout, or wearing that McGruff suit, hell no! I miss being a cop! Quit hiding out, if you wanna work a desk go be a secretary.

Anonymous said...

Sergeants should be answering calls and writing their own reports, making the position just another promotional step. It makes no sense to call an officer to a scene so you can tell them what happened or have them do something you could've done yourself. It's one of the most laziest positions in Uniform.

Liutenants can then stop studying for their college degrees and do the work the taxpayers are paying them to do..........POLICE.

Anonymous said...

You guys have sgts/lts that don't write police reports?

Anonymous said...

There are Sgt's who go out on calls and write reports. I'm not sure who you all work for, but this Sgt works hard everyday and loves going out on calls and does his paperwork.

Anonymous said...

ILP waste of man hours, little results. Ugh and the meetings, dog and two ponies.

Anonymous said...

People around here do the bare minimum as we all know and won't do ANYTHING unless ordered. We need policy issued requiring supervisors to handle their own cases and not calling another unit to handle for them ASAP.

Anonymous said...

Its funny, see supervisors have been attending meetings with ILP supreme commander 3 times a day. Just keep smiling guys its going to fail.

Anonymous said...

ILP, you wanna stop the 10% whom you say are committing 90% of the crime then get in your damn take home cars and get on the streets. Stopping crime does not occur behind a desk. Oh I forgot the weekends off are great for getting 40 hours of J2.

red said...

Do what I used to do. Knock out the j-2,and make them a witness.

Anonymous said...

No wonnder everyone is leaving DeKalb for other departments. Better health insurance, better pay, take home cars, etc. Now we have implemented this garbage ILP program! Great just another way for Sgts, Lts, and officers to sit on their collective assess and not do any actual POLICE WORK while the officers on the street get screwed and worked to the bone. This county never ceases to amaze me with their ineptness, corruption, and lack of organization from the top down. Too many chiefs and not enough indians. And they wonder why there is such an incredibly high turnover rate. The sad thing is, nothing is ever going to change in DeKalb.....

Anonymous said...

Just wait till Capt. Scrap Iron make Asst. Chief!

Anonymous said...

Before being promoted, I heard a newly promoted sergeant go out on a 29 in order to clear a call off the screen..... a storm had just passed and we were down 20 or 30 calls generated by alarms set off by a power outage....

Long story short.... the car was Code 4 OUT OF DEKALB.... he told radio to confirm, start a 10-51 on confirmation and a unit for J2..... I have never and will never do that to my officers.... yes, I have rank....but I'm still a police officer. I do my own J2, make arrests and write tickets.

In the newly promoted sergeant's case...how lazy can you be!..... it was stolen OUT OF DEKALB... a supp could have been knocked out before the tow truck driver found the keys for his unit. No, I do not and will not do that.

Anonymous said...

Where are all the supervisor's going after N.Precinct shut's down? Spread them out,instead of promoting more. It will not be much longer until Sgt's are like officer's,and Lt's like Sgt's. It will probably be easier to find bigfoot,than to find a working road officer. Promotion's are not going to reduce resignation's !

Anonymous said...

Its an us and them mentality here in Dekalb, and it's only gotten worse. All you have to do to see it is look at our uniforms. It wasn't good enough that supervisors had Gold badges, which is fine, but they had to go so far as to stop officers from wearing the official patch of this department and put them into those ugly silver pajama patches...

We look so freakin ridiculous to other agencies wearing different uniforms but then again we have slowly become the laughing stock of the law enforcement community.

I'm just waiting for them to start decaling all the supervisors cars with Gold Decals and the Officers cars in Silver....what a bunch of idiots we have for leadership.

DIVIDE & CONQUER!! It's the new motto in Dekalb.

Anonymous said...

The sgts are doing their jobs and the lts jobs. You calling them lazy because they aren't doing your job too?

Anonymous said...

If we had a handful of Officers that were worth a damn, and we could trust to make the right decision. Then and only then would I consider handling and working J-2 calls. But I have to stay flexible to go watch over no babysit the ones handling the calls. Yea yea I know you all are super cops, no not even on a good day. Sorry.

Anonymous said...

Hey Anon July 31 @ 913

We are on the same wavelength. I posted almost the exact same comment a month or two ago about the patches and cars. LOL....except there is nothing funny about it and we probably will have two different color decals depending on whether the car is assigned to an officer or supervisor.

I get asked frequently if I am a security guard. And if Im not asked, you can see some people looking hard at the uniform, reading it, and then they figure it out. If someone with authority is reading, please get everyone on the same page with the GOLD patch.

SERENITY NOW

old warhorse said...

In all fairness,it is a Sgt's job to supervise and delegate when call's are backed up. If they are tied up on a call,then they can't respond to any higher priority event. Handle a simple 75,just kick it out of the road call,sure.Alarm's,sure.(in and out). Actual 10-7----10-7 calls,not their purpose.That's why call's have priority. But if these new Sgt's were "slug/incompetent officer's",then they will be "slug/incompetent Sgt's"! When enough call's consistently back up,maybe somebody,somewhere,will realize that there is an over abundance of supervisor's,stop promoting just to promote,and concentrate on the necessity and importance of patrol officer's. Road police are the only one's getting this job done. New rookie officer's on the road will have little or no impact for a couple of years. It takes them that long to gain enough experience to become "minimaly" useful to the watch.(that is if they are not mysteriously sent to S.O.D.,or some admin job @ 34). Thirty(30) officer's quit in Jan.. That's more officer's than on two(2) watches. A uniform officer or detective can only handle,what they can handle. ONE CALL AT A TIME.

Anonymous said...

Enough with the patches already. It was a panel of OFFICERS that wanted the silver patches. Remember the reps each precinct elected to represent the department and meet with Chief Obrien??? That's were the damn patches came from.

Here's an idea, why don't you officers get together and ask the chief for the old patch? Oh wait we already did that once and you people cant make up their damn minds.

Anonymous said...

Just pretend your silver patch is platinum and go on with your day in high spirits and an underserved sense of accomplishment. Milk and nap time ended in kindergarten, grow up.

Anonymous said...

To anon 9:13 and serenity now sounds like to me you are a couple of life long MPO's who can't pass a sgt exam to get promoted and your are jealous of the people who have rank and gold badges and patches. We have bigger issues to deal with like pay raises and our pension so pull your panties up and be big girls and stop bitching.

Anonymous said...

To anon 3:10... Rank is not the issue. As a Lt. In this dept I also think it looks unprofessional having different uniform patches but I also agree that we have much bigger issues. The only problem is the majority of officers here refuse to stand together...they were given an opportunity and none would step up to the plate.
I would like to know what you' re doing to make it better. At least these officers are expressing a serious problem that affects moral what are you doing but trying to intimidate and belittle them. Perhaps its you who needs to grow up. The last time I checked we are all DKPD officers....why not have 1 patch. I came here in pursuit of a LE career and I have another 15 to go but knowing there are officers like yourself here that only want to tear other officers down explains why so many are jumping ship.

Anonymous said...



Please tell me who ever wrote this is not a Supervisor....


July 31, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...
To anon 9:13 and serenity now sounds like to me you are a couple of life long MPO's who can't pass a sgt exam to get promoted and your are jealous of the people who have rank and gold badges and patches. We have bigger issues to deal with like pay raises and our pension so pull your panties up and be big girls and stop bitching.

July 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Because if you are a supervisor how are you approving reports when you can't even write and proof read your own post correctly. Who did you know to get promoted is the question I would like answered.

old warhorse said...

The black uniforms don't really look that bad. At least they look better than the gray shirt combo. Thank that poser Eddie Moody,and "go along to get along",Bobby Burgess,for that choice. Just like Grrr Animals clothing,for small kids to learn to dress themselves.(our uniforms and units had to match each other). Those fu*ked up looking shirts were first worn by the dog pound,then the evidence tech's. I even had my little Asian dry cleaner ask me "Why you wear gley shirt? Porice are supposed to wear brue)!! OMG. Talk about getting the sh*t embarrassed out of you!! I just grabbed my J-2,went slinking out of there,and started washing my uny @ home. My GOD,I even had civilians walk up and ask me "Are you a security guard or a policeman? No mamn.I'm not a security guard.Son of a bitch is as low as I usually go.I am a real policeman.I promise" ! One more complaint in my already "bulging" I.A. file. Dammmmmmmmmmmmmn!!!