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Where is the F.O.P. on this?
Saturday, October 11, 2014
Changes Coming at Magistrate Court
We have spoken and Cedric has listened. To make prisoner security safer at Magistrate Court, Cedric has decided that all prisoners should be transported in transport vans. Thats it.
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That's what happens when you have a leader with no leadership or POWER. The people in charge make changes that are convenient for them JUDGES. In a way that blows smoke up our ass to think a change is being made. When really it is the same old shit pie with a little different flavored icing on top.
Prisoners should never leave the jail for prelims. It's just another unnecessary exposure to danger but then again we sure don't want to upset the bureaucratic apple cart do we? Everyone else in the criminal justice system has status...we are grunts.
Was the type of vehicle used to transport the prisoner to court found to be a contributing factor in the shooting incident at Magistrate Court?
@9:52 AM
That is an excellent question. I think you will find the answer is no, the type of vehicle had nothing to do with it.
This shit happened when walking the prisoner out of the court room to the vehicle.
Use transport vans lmao, can't make this stuff up. Fucking genius idea!
People are still leaving the department in droves. Guess what, it's not because of take home cars or raises. It's because of lack of real leadership and the fact that the command staff all have god complexes. No one wants to work for a bunch of jerkoffs.
Let's use a little common sense here. Common sense tells you that the Magistrate court is a unit of the Probate court. We do not have control over the Probate court. To blame Dr. Alexander and anyone else in the department for this is WRONG! The department can ask the Probate court to use the courtrooms in the jail or video conferencing, but if they say they don't want to, what can we do about it? NOTHING!
If the Probate court doesn't want to change their procedures, then what leverage do we have as a department to make them do it. Quit blaming Dr. Alexander and others. I don't agree with everything that Dr. Alexander does, but, he doesn't deserve the blame under this topic nor the previous topic discussing the shooting.
Common Sense would tell you that the detective getting shot was either a one in a million crazy, never happen again, ever, incident, or that someone got complacent. I can tell you that when I saw the news reports on this, I did not think it was a one in a million incident. I don't know what happened, but we have a variety of restraint devices at our disposal to ensure that an incident like this shouldn't happen.
Everyone needs to be reminded not to get complacent. The vans are a good start. If you think about it, a change in procedure will cause you to think about what you are doing and make you less likely to be complacent.
No, it was not.
I agree that you can't blame Alexander on this one, but he needs to get with the Chief Magistrate who does make that decision. There is no reason for prisoners to leave the jail when they can handle it through video conferencing. We are in a technological age where this is done. There is no need to put the officers or the public at risk. If that can't be agreed upon, shackle the detainees at their feet and their arms to a belt. They're not in jail for helping people. Make it safe for all involved.
Yes that is much safer, and that's all it takes to get a "Doctors" title huh.
Jack ASS! go back where you came from and take that spineless Conroy with you.
In all of his years as a police officer he has less than 5 years road experience.
his road was paved starting from the academy.
Anon October 12, 2014 at 1:55 PM
That would be a slightly credible point, except I don't buy for a second that Alexander even asked. And if you think that he doesn't have the pull to make that happen? You're extremely naive and need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid. He doesn't even have to use the fact that an officer got shot using this procedure, he can just point out that NONE of our neighbors use the procedure and for good reason.
Common Sense says that if you have the ability to handle these cases in house at the jail, saving money on gas and man hours to transport, opening up space in recorders court to cut down on over-crowding, and remove situations in which plain clothes detectives not armed with Tasers, spray, or other restraint devices aren't told to transport people in an open air low-lit environment at all hours of the day and night, why would you not make that happen? You say use Common Sense, yet your argument directly contradicts that. Removing this policy and deferring it to the Sheriff's Office who are more equipped to handle it, or even just using the in-jail courtrooms as if they were built as a purpose makes sense, Dr. Alexander is the leader of this agency and we all know that, he is the de-facto chief. His unique position at the county office gives him even more power, but yet he chooses to take the easy way out and make some small non-sensical change just to say he did it? That's why he is and will continue to get flak. This is just another example of his incompetence and lack of concern for the wellbeing of the department and it's officers.
From my understanding the video system is currently used for the seven deadly offenses now. From a legal perspective,(federal statues) the public has to have "free" access to attend preliminary hearings, so even if the first appearance hearings are all done by video the preliminaries can't be handled that way. Other agencies do NOT do preliminary hearings via video either, just first appearance hearings. So with that being said there is still an issue that needs to be researched and resolved. I don't think blaming the judges, the sheriff's department, or the powers at be at the PD will fix the problem. Let's just hope they are coming together to attempt to resolve the issues.
To Oct. 12 1:55 How did you come up with "Probate court"? Probate court is not held in old 34's complex. Probate court is in the DeKalb courthouse. Geez! Recorders and Magistrate courts are on Camp Circle...just down from the DeKalb Hilton. That's the jail in case you are not familiar.
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